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Sentient Blade
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Posted - 2014.06.13 08:59:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:The ones that don't trust their members or are unable to defend their POS will simply research and copy in (now slotless) NPC stations.
I think you're deliberately confusing a small indy corp with a nullsec alliance or RvB.
The notion of defending a POS is nonsense - If it's online, and armed, then the only groups liable to attack it are those with sufficiently overwhelming force that it's reinforced within half an hour.
That RF can take place at ANY time of the day.
Are you seriously suggesting that to take advantage of researching in POS towers that small indy corps now need enough members to put up an around-the-clock defensive fleet?
What about smaller still, one or two man corps that use industry to fund other things, like PvP? Is it a case of:
"Hey, sorry. We here at CCP think that EVE is serious business and you can forget about that spontaneous weekend trip away with your wife because when you get back your BPOs are all gone." |
Sentient Blade
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Posted - 2014.06.13 09:21:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:but like I said, small corps will just use NPC stations.
Fair enough, but to get the point home... can one of the database guys tell us how big your average indy corp (those running > 100 jobs per month) is?
I'm guessing it's about... 10.
These particular changes just leave me with a very bad taste in my mouth. They remind me of when CCP decided to remove higher-end anomalies from 90% of nullsec and kidney-punched every small nullsec alliance out there. |
Sentient Blade
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Posted - 2014.06.13 10:10:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Just ran the numbers on this, it's actually higher than you think.
Thanks for running those - Is it something you can share? It would go a long way to abating the fear that these changes would be such a large barrier to entry for new corporations. Not in terms of slots, but in terms of new groups only getting half the research speed etc. |
Sentient Blade
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Posted - 2014.07.09 14:03:00 -
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What exactly is the problem in having a heavily armed indy tower? Especially when you're paying an extra 500m a month for the privilege. POS defenses are already woefully under powered. |
Sentient Blade
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Posted - 2014.07.09 15:26:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:The reason we're considering revising industry structure fittings is to have more interesting choices, not fewer - do you put your labs and your build arrays on the same tower, or split them up so each can be better defended?
I'm afraid that "Interesting choices" is something I'm always extremely wary of when coming from CCP.
It usually comes along with artificially forcing debilitating penalties... like freighter hull upgrades, which nerf the very thing a freighter is designed for, but are necessary just to get you back to something reasonable.
A POS tower should be defended, and heavily, the notion that you can just take your things out is absolute nonsense. BPOs sure, but what about anything which is already building? There is no way to evacuate that short of pressing the cancel button and losing everything you put into it, and I'd hardly call that an evacuation.
A high value POS tower is not like a high-value ship, like a supercarrier, even though they may quite easily be comparable in value. A tower is constantly exposed, night and day, any timezone. Your suggestion is to force more value into them, and then make it even harder to fit defenses on? ... and don't even get me started on the mess of things like lock-downs and corporate roles.
Come the indy changes, every POS tower should be armed to the teeth, and rightly so. Hitting a major industrial complex should be a massive undertaking, with significant risk associated with it. The owner of the POS is already taking a huge risk using it; the destruction of a POS can potentially lose billions or even tens of billions when existing jobs are aborted.
"I'm going to base my factory in Baghdad, but once I've finished buying the machinery, I'll just have to go without hiring any guards because ~arbitrary limit~" -- Said nobody ever. |
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